Subject	i thought the same thing.
Posted by	maglito on April 29, 2013 at 2:28 PM
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In Reply To	Re: STL Z32 700RWHP club: dyno analysis GTX vs GTRS, 400+ vs 500 posted by BLACKBEAST on April 29, 2013 at 03:05 AM
Message	I downloaded the injector dynamics sizing calculator and studied it for quite sometime and came to the same conclusion. I figured id1000 should be good for about 630RWHP at base fuel pressure (PSID), about 670RWHP at 55psid (the max safe level I calculated for dual dw300 pumps at 13.5v) and almost 700RWHP at 70psid (the absolute max the pumps could support with 18v via a 40amp boost-a-pump).. However, that doesn't seem to be the case and I have 3 theories as to why. 1) we are using ~e63 not true "e85" and so the power density of the fuel is greater. 2) the vg30dett is much more efficient than the suggested values on the calculator. 3) the calculator is designed to be conservative in nature to prevent people from blowing up their engines. It could be a combination of all three. m a g l i t o E85 conversion COMPLETE --700RWHP, 683TQ on corn not fed to starving children my Z is not for sale The build up begins - progress - reassembly part one - part two - aliaZspec stage2 heads - 2013 SpecialtyZ dynotune results Links with working pictures of my Z -> Gateway International Raceway HPDE 2007 - Putnam Park HPDE 2007 (data acquisition analysis) - Chicago Z meet 2007
Follow Ups	STL Z32 700RWHP club: dyno analysis GTX vs GTRS, 400+ vs 500 - maglito 20:25:21 04/28/13 Nice - Adam (NoVA) 20:38:28 04/28/13 Awesome! - Drk93TT 21:13:45 04/28/13 nice ! (n/m) - The Devils Z 21:19:14 04/28/13 going from GT28RS to GTX2863-you also feel GTX spool faster? (n/m) - maglito 21:23:00 04/28/13 Yes I did ... noticeable power diffference even at 17psi (n/m) - The Devils Z 19:38:40 04/29/13 Good Stuff - DarkZide 21:35:38 04/28/13 If you have your run file, email me and I can make a chart. - maglito 21:42:42 04/28/13 yeah I need to update my mods lol - DarkZide 21:55:22 04/28/13 I didn't get permission to post Ray's chart. But I have it. (n/m) - maglito 21:44:19 04/28/13 If Ray doesn't mind... - maglito 21:58:18 04/28/13 Ah, less boost on the Tomei build. - BigTDogg (MA) 09:15:05 04/29/13 Rays car does not have varible timing either - DarkZide 09:32:39 04/29/13 laaaaaaaag city :( - samsung-Z [Houston] 17:38:08 04/29/13 As I understand it Ray has 2 or 3 other sweet Zs, each built - maglito 18:28:54 04/29/13 With a setup that far geared for top end,sacrificing - samsung-Z [Houston] 21:09:02 04/29/13 Yea, I wondered about Ray's car.? (n/m) - Z ONLY1 12:01:18 04/29/13 Re: STL Z32 700RWHP club: dyno analysis GTX vs GTRS, 400+ vs 500 - Tech@EPR 22:33:55 04/28/13 petar's build is rock solid, great work! - maglito 23:30:56 04/28/13 Re: petar's build is rock solid, great work! - Tech@EPR 23:41:08 04/28/13 another quality build!! great job (n/m) - fst300zx 09:03:33 04/29/13 Nice man (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:42:25 04/30/13 Wow Maglito... - ConVerTT 00:15:27 04/29/13 Holy torque curve batman! - bartz32tt 00:35:14 04/29/13 probably not. The Z maybe "done" as is. - maglito 18:58:09 04/29/13 Whoa - done? The next step is usually: sell! :-P (n/m) - spicyZ 08:37:54 04/30/13 Re: STL Z32 700RWHP club: dyno analysis GTX vs GTRS, 400+ vs 500 - aliaZ 00:51:03 04/29/13 it cant get discussed if no one mentions it - LJZTT 02:14:40 04/29/13 2nd. I wonder what these heads would do with 500 cams. - MixManMash 04:36:38 04/29/13 Re: it cant get discussed if no one mentions it - aliaZ 06:59:19 04/29/13 Ouch. That is a huge mistake!!! - MixManMash 07:30:20 04/29/13 I called them more than 5 years ago, so I'm first on the - BigTDogg (MA) 09:13:35 04/29/13 Have flow bench numbers for those heads ? (n/m) - ztunerz 10:40:55 04/29/13 stage2 flow numbers are in my sig. stage3 aren't finished - maglito 11:38:29 04/29/13 more questions .... - ztunerz 15:24:54 04/29/13 aliaZspec stage2 head flow results. REPOSTED, working pics - maglito 18:06:54 04/29/13 Not sure if this is the right data; - ni[X]it 22:26:32 04/30/13 Hi Nick! - maglito 00:33:02 05/01/13 I reposted the head flow post with working pics above. - maglito 18:23:28 04/29/13 Nothing is swept under the rug - Kyle(Houston) 09:54:49 04/29/13 +1 (n/m) - samsung-Z [Houston] 21:16:45 04/29/13 drama is good Kyle - aliaZ 23:11:30 04/29/13 You should repost it incase someone else searches for - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:24:45 04/30/13 I posted it yesterday in Tech so it could be VTF'd - aliaZ 21:51:25 04/30/13 Eff it! I say post in general next time - KongZTT GT28RS MD 16:38:24 05/01/13 yep I may repost it because it didn't make it to VTF - aliaZ 07:39:31 05/02/13 I'm sure Kyle will get it figured out. He always - Ghoztt 10:38:34 04/29/13 Re: STL Z32 700RWHP club: dyno analysis GTX vs GTRS, 400+ vs 500 - BLACKBEAST 03:05:01 04/29/13 Roughly stock. - SeanK (StL) 08:32:22 04/29/13 i thought the same thing. - maglito 14:28:30 04/29/13 lnjector duty cycle? - Alan (TN) 10:02:38 04/29/13 Same here. I've very curious about the limits of the ID1000 - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 14:41:43 04/29/13 I heard Petars was in the upper 90s @789RWHP - maglito 14:52:00 04/29/13 I have heard that ID may be developing a 1300 cc injector. - Alan (TN) 18:08:37 04/29/13 with fuel pressure @ 70psid, ID1000 flow 1265cc - maglito 18:45:38 04/29/13 I mainly was looking for a little head room - Alan (TN) 09:22:32 04/30/13 It depends on your power goals - maglito 13:53:54 05/01/13 hhhmmmm....those curves! - RobZ32 10:09:52 04/29/13 Question about the last chart >> - ztunerz 10:39:10 04/29/13 could it be leaner because I am making so much more power? - maglito 14:05:07 04/29/13 yeah maybe he will chime in (n/m) - ztunerz 15:12:08 04/29/13 any dynos with Petars car on pump? looking for - ZiNnYc 13:59:05 04/29/13 I don't have pump gas run for Petar - maglito 19:37:28 04/29/13 i barely spend any time in NYC during the year - ZiNnYc 11:19:51 04/30/13 Re: STL Z32 700RWHP club: dyno analysis GTX vs GTRS, 400+ vs 500 - Petar 15:51:39 04/29/13 Thanks for setting everything up man! - maglito 19:39:16 04/29/13
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